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The Avoch Image Library
No: 40 Contributor: Helen Lamont-Wood Year: 1902
Helen Mason McClymont and familyMy Great Great Grandfather was George Macleman of "Rose Cottge", Avoch, born 1855, son of Donald Macleman and Isabelle or Isabella Patience.
George moved to Lanarkshire, Scotland sometime before his marriage to Annie Barrie in 1876.
This is a picture of my great grandmother Helen Mason McClymont's Family taken in Lanarkshire, Scotland sometime between 1897 and 1902.
The parents are Annie (nee Barrie)(born 1857)and George McClymont (Born 1855) previously known as Macleman.
The youngest boy at right, front row is George, born 1892, the little girl in the middle is Jeannie (birth name'Jane')(born 1895) and the boy first on the left in the front row is Charles Barrie (born 1890.) The tall boy at the back is Donald (born 1883). The other girl's names are Isabella, Elisabeth and Ann , and the girl at the front second from right is most likely Jemima (called "wee 'Mima" by her sisters.) (born 1888)
If anyone wishes to help me fill in the blanks I would be most grateful!
Helen Lamont-Wood
Picture added on 29 April 2010 at 20:02
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The McLemans
The McLemans
Hello Helen, I would love to get in touch with you. I live in Deception Bay Australia and I have a great number of Macleman/ McLeman records from Avoch. I am very happy to give you any you need. An admin person mentioned you live not too far from me. I'm not sure if you can access my email address from this page but you are welcome to contact me. Let me know if you need me to send it.
Added by Ann Duggan on 29 April 2010
Hi Helen,
I posted earlier this morning here and on the Cromarty Archive under the impression you lived in Australia. If you live in the U.K please disregard that in one of the postings I invited you to visit me to see if any of my records were from your branch of the family. I certainly think that would be a long trip if you're in the U.K.
Not that you aren't welcome if you do come to Australia at any time. I'll check through my stuff and see if I can find a connection- I'm sure there will be one through either the McLeman or Patience families but how close I don't know withput looking further. Best Regards Ann Duggan
I posted earlier this morning here and on the Cromarty Archive under the impression you lived in Australia. If you live in the U.K please disregard that in one of the postings I invited you to visit me to see if any of my records were from your branch of the family. I certainly think that would be a long trip if you're in the U.K.
Not that you aren't welcome if you do come to Australia at any time. I'll check through my stuff and see if I can find a connection- I'm sure there will be one through either the McLeman or Patience families but how close I don't know withput looking further. Best Regards Ann Duggan
Added by Ann Duggan on 30 April 2010
I now have more information about where our Maclemans lived in Avoch. I understand Rose Cottage to have been at 24 Dock. Does this ring a bell for anyone? In Particular, does anyone have a picture that they could share?
Added by Helen Lamont-Wood on 24 May 2010
I currently live in Rose Cottage in Rose Street, Avoch. I wonder if this is the same Rose Cottage you speak of?
Added by D Walker on 27 May 2010
I have done some digging and 24 Dock is now known as Kenya Cottage.
Added by D Walker on 27 May 2010
Thank you for that information. Is 24 Dock also in Rose street? According to Google maps it is, but the street view is very limited.Apparently at 22 Dock is Beronia cottage, and former inhabitants from there told me that Rose cottage was at 24 dock.As long as 'Kenya Cottage'is in former Seatown,then this should be the correct one.Do you have a picture of 'Kenya Cottage' that you might be willing to scan and send to me or post on this site? If you know the names of former owners from local lore,I would also love to have that information- if it does not trouble you to find out.I would be most grateful!Thank you.
Added by Helen Lamont-Wood on 31 May 2010
Hi Helen
My family lived at 22 Dock, it was knocked down. I will look through my images of Dock and see what I can find.
John
My family lived at 22 Dock, it was knocked down. I will look through my images of Dock and see what I can find.
John
Added by John Mclennan ( McLeman ) on 31 May 2010
Hi Helen
Looking at the old plan, some of the houses in Dock
Seem to have had their numbers changed when they were incorporated in other streets. The old 24 Dock has 14 on it now
Looking at the old plan, some of the houses in Dock
Seem to have had their numbers changed when they were incorporated in other streets. The old 24 Dock has 14 on it now
Added by John Mclennan ( McLeman ) on 31 May 2010
Hi John, I have had a look at the photos, but I'm not sure which photo you refer to. What is in the photo?
Added by Helen Lamont-Wood on 17 November 2010
Hi Helen
If you look in Albums there is a old map of Dock, 22 is outlined in grey and 24 is numbered. Did I send you some photo's by direct e-mail?
If you look in Albums there is a old map of Dock, 22 is outlined in grey and 24 is numbered. Did I send you some photo's by direct e-mail?
Added by John mcLennan (McLeman) on 17 November 2010
Thanks John, I'll have a look. No, I didn't receive any pictures.
Added by Helen Lamont-Wood on 17 November 2010
I had a look- thanks.Just an aside-my first thought was-close to the water, lovely!My second thought was-No,close to the water- less sheltered than the others, need more peat for fires. Time changes perceptions I suppose. : )
Added by Helen Lamont-Wood on 17 November 2010
I am interested in the comments on Rose Cottage Rose St Avoch. I don't think you are talking about the Rose Cottage in Rose St that was the home of the Mackenzie family from 1891 until the last member of the family to live there. Jean McLennan who died in 1995. My gt grandfather Donald Mackenzie built Rose Cottage & he lived there with his wife Isabel nee Fraser & their six children, David 1883, James1886 , Janet1888, William 1891(my grandfather) Margaret 1896 & Donald 1901(Tom). I have been researching my family for 40 years & have a lot of information of the Mackenzie's of Rose Cottage. I also have photographs of the house & the Mackenzie family.
Added by Jane Hall nee Mackenzie on 23 October 2012
Why not scan and send some of your photographs and we can put them on the site.
Added by John on 24 October 2012
Jane Hall, I now live at Donald Mckenzie's Rose Cottage and would love to see some photos.
Added by Dawn walker on 24 October 2012
Thanks for your info Jane. I'm sure that there was another 'Rose cottage' in Avoch ( ' Och' as my great Aunt Elisabeth Fleming, nee McClymont, used to call it.) my great great grandfather George McClymont, originally George McLemon, left Och for the Glasgow weaving industry some time before 1876, we think. Aunt Elisabeth told my mother that she used to go back regularly to Och to visit family there, and my mother understood that it was Rose Cottage that had been the original family home. Their home in Blantyre , Glasgow, was named RoseAvoch in memory of George's childhood home. Does this ring a bell for any one?
Added by Helen Lamont- Wood on 01 November 2012
For Jane Hall. We own 10Rose Street, next door to your great grandfather's house. My father started to serve his time as a carpenter and coffin maker with your grandfather before he went to sea. There used to be an old house in front of our place and your great grandfather, known by the way, was Donald Skitrock, had his workplace at the back of it . I remember twin girls climbing on the rof of that old house. They must have been relations of yours. janet, Mrs Crabtree gave me and my mother a whole load of Needlewoman magazines which I still have. i remember her telling us how she met Mr Crabtree on a cruise ship. Her sister Maggie wasn't nearly as pleasant! They used to have an ebony elephant in the passage and if the dor was open, we used to go and sit onit! Just a few memories for you.
Anonymous comment added on 10 November 2012
Thank you so much for your information about Rose cottage & Janet Crabtree. Janet was my great aunt . My grandfather was Janet's brother William who became a doctor, William had three children. James My father William & Jean. Jean was the mother of the twin girls Sue & Gay, my first cousins. My father was left Rose Cottage by Janet as a holiday house however we lived in Kent and it was not possible to travel to Scotland to use it. The days before Easy Jet. My father's sister Jean brought it from him & lived there until 1995 when she died. I do hope to come uo to Avoch in the not too distant future.
Added by Jane Hall nee Mackenzie on 11 November 2012
Would be interested in any information re William McClymont(originally McLeman) born 1847 Avoch and married Jessie Stewart born 1848 also from Avoch. They came to NZ sometime before 1877. Why did the name get changed from McLeman to McClymont??
Added by Trish Holloway (great Grand-daughter) on 01 March 2014
Hi Helen
My grandfather Donald McLeman lived in Blantyre when he first got married I wonder if he was in contact with your family at that time. He married in 1911.
My grandfather Donald McLeman lived in Blantyre when he first got married I wonder if he was in contact with your family at that time. He married in 1911.
Added by John Mcleman on 25 March 2014
With help from Ann Duggin I have tracked the William McClymont/Jessie Stewart line. I am now trying to piece together information re James McClymont (McLeman) who married either a May or Jessie Sutherland - last known in Motherwell Glasgow. Their daughter Jean Ross McClymont was my maternal grandmother. Trish Holloway NZ
Anonymous comment added on 03 April 2014
Hi Helen,
My name is Jean Barry Hobbs. I was supposed to be named after my grandmother who I believe is the little girl in the picture.
My mother was Ellice Upton Nora Iorns, Nana married a Joseph Irons. I remember talk of Jemima and Annie and visited them as a small child. Would you like to get in touch? I live in N.Z. Nana lived to 103!
My name is Jean Barry Hobbs. I was supposed to be named after my grandmother who I believe is the little girl in the picture.
My mother was Ellice Upton Nora Iorns, Nana married a Joseph Irons. I remember talk of Jemima and Annie and visited them as a small child. Would you like to get in touch? I live in N.Z. Nana lived to 103!
Added by Jean Hobbs on 24 September 2018
Hi,
I live in N.Z. and the small girl in the front Jane, Jeanie, was my grandmother. She died aged 103. You may like to contact me if you would like to know her history.
I live in N.Z. and the small girl in the front Jane, Jeanie, was my grandmother. She died aged 103. You may like to contact me if you would like to know her history.
Added by Jean Hobbs on 24 September 2018
MacLeman / McClymont
Both William b.1847 and George b.1855
son of Isabellla and Donald MacLeman
of Rose cottage changed their names to McClymont
, did any other children also change surname
and why?
Both William b.1847 and George b.1855
son of Isabellla and Donald MacLeman
of Rose cottage changed their names to McClymont
, did any other children also change surname
and why?
Added by Chris Glass on 28 February 2019
Chris in 99% of cases the folk who left Avoch didn't actually change their name themselves. The Avoch folk spoke in away that was unique to Avoch in the old days and up until nearly 1900 many were illiterate and signed " by their mark" . Any registrar or minister in places like Glasgow would have simply written the name the way it sounded to them and the person wouldn't have had a clue it was wrong. Even in Avoch some names were written as Mc or Mac depending on the preference of the registrar at the time. I have family whose names lost or gained the a at different times in various records.
Added by Ann Duggan on 23 April 2019
My grandfather Donald is top centre in this wonderful photo. His daughter Doris (born in London in 1914) was my mum. I live in New Zealand but am currently in the UK and plan to spend a couple of days in and around Avoch towards the end of this month. I will seek out Rose Cottage and see if I can reveal any more information or confirmation of where it is and if our great grandfather George McLeman/ McClymont did live there. Any advice appreciated.
Added by Doug Hayward on 16 July 2019
hi there i am gggranddaughter of George and Annie McClymont who immigrated to New Zealand in 1913ish. Very keen to hear from anyone with any info on the family
Added by Helen Meikle on 28 November 2021
I think you might be related to my deceased partner Donald Finlay Macleman who has mentioned Rose cottage His father was Donald Macleman who sailed to Australia and married Marjorie and had 3 sons,Donald Collin and ALexander.Don passed away in 1918 after suffering a stroke,He drove Sydney ferries and followed his Fathers footsteps as a ships Captain,Alex was also a Captain,Donald and Collin Visited Family in Avochand am sure went to Rose Cottagea about 2025,/26.I was looking up Lamont tartan when your site came up.most interesting,regards Jill Evans,NSW Australia
Added by Jill Evans on 03 January 2023